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Re: World’s best buttery
« Reply #40 on: April 10, 2018, 07:19:27 AM »
Aye, the lassie in John Street was a bit miffed, they were told fuck all, the "for sale" sign just appeared.

Anyone who goes to Greggs should be shot as a weegie.

List of lost bakers includes

Murdochs

Duncans

Mitchell & Muil

Simmers

Crawfords



And that diznae include all the little "one shop" bakers that there used to be.

What was the one on East Merkland Road called?
The smell of the rolls coming out of the oven used to waken me up when I lived there.

There was a home baker on Rosemount Place until quite recently across from Skene Square School.
I grew up in Hill Street so it was pretty handy, although we used Murdochs mostly.

There was also a superb baker at the bottom of Raeburn Place (backing onto Baker Street)
I remember the road outside was slidey as fuck with all the flour mixed with rain.

I think the one in Raeburn Place was Stevie Wilson's, it all flats now, my granda worked there and my old man served his time in there, pretty sure it was taken over by Duncan's Bakery which was on St Machar's Road as they both moved to there. My granda had previously worked in Murdochs and that was far he met my grandma.

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Re: World’s best buttery
« Reply #41 on: April 10, 2018, 12:08:20 PM »
I worked in Duncans in Peterheid when I was a loon, used to deliver big trays o rowie's balanced on the front o the message bike, a stern test o yer cycling skills that was, I mind one morning a seagull shat ower me and the rowies, had to clean them up as best I could afore I delivered them. :D

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Re: World’s best buttery
« Reply #42 on: April 10, 2018, 01:30:42 PM »
You could have just told them it was dairylee

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Re: World’s best buttery
« Reply #43 on: April 15, 2018, 02:31:29 PM »
I heard today that Aitkens is shutting down this week, apparently they just couldn't make the business viable any longer.

For a Torry loon like myself that is a crying shame, it only seems like yesterday I was scaling the fence around Torry Academy at playtime to be one of the first in line at Aitkens and secure myself a bug o brokeners for 5p. I just remembered that the Academy itself it shutting down in the summer too.   :(

I will get myself over and stock up in some of the finest wares before they shut, far more to Aitkens than just rolls, their custard slices are the stuff of legend as are their paradise slices. Their shortcrust apple pies, which come in the same shape and size as a normal pie are to die for and their pan loafs are exceptional.

They also sell the best Strawberry tarts in town also using Strawberries which are in season and nae tasteless shite which we get out of season and all year round.

The only baker left in Torry now is JG Ross of Inverurie and their stuff is minging. Greggs don't count as they are not a baker, they sell re-heated shyte made in Newcastle or some other shithole in England.

After the game yesterday and hearing the news about Aitkens I am fairly depressed today.

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Re: World’s best buttery
« Reply #44 on: April 15, 2018, 04:48:58 PM »
That's terrible terrible news.

End of an era doesn't begin to describe it.

I'm with you on Ross's , their stuff when fresh is passable but they have a tendency o sell oot o' date pish.

Greggs, as you say doesn't count.
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Re: World’s best buttery
« Reply #45 on: April 15, 2018, 05:06:23 PM »
Fuck sake min, that's really depressed me.
The oil industry can get tae fuck but nae Aitkens surely.

I'll have to get myself one of these.


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Re: World’s best buttery
« Reply #46 on: April 15, 2018, 05:24:53 PM »
Fuck sake min, that's really depressed me.
The oil industry can get tae fuck but nae Aitkens surely.

I'll have to get myself one of these.



That logo would bring a tear to a glass eye, a proper bakers shop.

Of course they are probably still suffering from the death of my ma 4 years ago, who did her best to feed us in our own body weight in aitkens goodies over the years and even more so when we left home.  She stayed next door to the bakery and when we visited you would be fed all your favourites until you could eat no more for a week.

Even David Bowies loon posted something about their demise. Apparently he stayed at Cornhill Court, or one of ths skyscrapers up cornhill way, with his nannies folks, who were from Aberdeen, when he was a young lad and knows all about Aitkens and loves a rowie. Whether that is with or without dairylee he wouldn't comment on.

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Re: World’s best buttery
« Reply #47 on: April 16, 2018, 08:05:36 AM »
that's right enough about Bowie's loon, one o my auntie's bridesmaids was the nanny, must have been around 1973.

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Re: World’s best buttery
« Reply #48 on: April 19, 2018, 06:40:51 PM »
 Back in the day,Aitkens may have been up there,but I would guess bad management the last 10,15 years,or the owners knowing they were going to retire,has seen most of their shops(Aitkens) look a bit tatty these days.I see JG Ross has a big new shop across the road in Torry,so wouldna think it was a lack of potential trade
   Got round to trying a couple of their rowies today and was a bit underwhelmed tbh.Mediocre.
Been trying various other rowies around town with the morning coffee.The wifie at the sandwich shop on esslemont Av was up their with the best,....but now her daughter(quite tidy),has taken over the shop,and replaced them with veggie rowies   ::).
   Was in Herds the butchers the other day,and asked them who made their rowies,and was surprised to find they make their own   :eek:.....but I would suggest they maybe stick to butchering   :-\

  Rowie results are in as follows,starting in last place - 

 J G Ross  -  Just looked,didna bother buying...shite
 Herds      -  Bland,floury
 Chalmers -  Better,but mediocre
 Aitkens    -  Average
 Thains     -  Good

  But the winner is.....


  Bruce of the Broch   :wave:.Bit of a dark horse,but good generous,flaky rowie.Boy at the Grove(top loon) in Union Grove had them.He'll be using them permanently when Aitkens packs in   

 

 
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Re: World’s best buttery
« Reply #49 on: April 19, 2018, 07:12:37 PM »
Bit late to this, but...jam?  Only thing that should go on a buttery is mair butter.

Also, nae mention of Robertsons? Although I haven't tried one of theirs for decades now.

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Re: World’s best buttery
« Reply #50 on: April 20, 2018, 07:15:48 AM »
Back in the day,Aitkens may have been up there,but I would guess bad management the last 10,15 years,or the owners knowing they were going to retire,has seen most of their shops(Aitkens) look a bit tatty these days.I see JG Ross has a big new shop across the road in Torry,so wouldna think it was a lack of potential trade
   Got round to trying a couple of their rowies today and was a bit underwhelmed tbh.Mediocre.
Been trying various other rowies around town with the morning coffee.The wifie at the sandwich shop on esslemont Av was up their with the best,....but now her daughter(quite tidy),has taken over the shop,and replaced them with veggie rowies   ::).
   Was in Herds the butchers the other day,and asked them who made their rowies,and was surprised to find they make their own   :eek:.....but I would suggest they maybe stick to butchering   :-\

  Rowie results are in as follows,starting in last place - 

 J G Ross  -  Just looked,didna bother buying...shite
 Herds      -  Bland,floury
 Chalmers -  Better,but mediocre
 Aitkens    -  Average
 Thains     -  Good

  But the winner is.....


  Bruce of the Broch   :wave:.Bit of a dark horse,but good generous,flaky rowie.Boy at the Grove(top loon) in Union Grove had them.He'll be using them permanently when Aitkens packs in   

 

 

Most rowies are veggie, even Vegan. You don't make rowies with butter or marg, a total myth.

The thing about rolls is that no two batches are the same due to the production method, a good rowie should never be mixed in a machine, the fat should be mixed in my hand, hence why aitkens usually sold two types and some are more salty than the others.

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Re: World’s best buttery
« Reply #51 on: April 20, 2018, 07:43:55 AM »
Quine at the veggie place said normal rowies were made with pork fat hence the swap to veggie. No idea if that's right or not

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Re: World’s best buttery
« Reply #52 on: April 20, 2018, 09:30:00 AM »
Bit late to this, but...jam?  Only thing that should go on a buttery is mair butter.

Also, nae mention of Robertsons? Although I haven't tried one of theirs for decades now.


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Re: World’s best buttery
« Reply #53 on: April 20, 2018, 12:14:50 PM »
Quine at the veggie place said normal rowies were made with pork fat hence the swap to veggie. No idea if that's right or not

Yep, lard. Rendered pig fat. Unless yer crazy...TheDeeDon.

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Re: World’s best buttery
« Reply #54 on: April 20, 2018, 01:00:17 PM »
Yep, lard. Rendered pig fat. Unless yer crazy...TheDeeDon.

Worked as a baker for 12 years and it was always veggie shortening we used, never lard and that was back in the 80s.  The trick to a rowie is how the fat is mixed with the dough, doesn't matter the ingredients used if you don't mix the two key components correctly it can spoil the while thing and no two rolls should taste the same, due to the fat content not being evenly mixed.

You could use lard, but you couldn't use all lard as it would be too greasy, just like you don't use butter or marg in them either.

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Re: World’s best buttery
« Reply #55 on: April 20, 2018, 02:08:39 PM »
Worked as a baker for 12 years

Whatever, I've seen a recipe on the internet, so I think I have a little bit more experience in Rowie making.

Interesting post min, do you have the ideal recipe ratio? 5 parts dough to 3 parts vegetable shortening? And do you dee the whole folding type thing like yer deein puff pastry?


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Re: World’s best buttery
« Reply #56 on: April 20, 2018, 07:05:48 PM »
Bit late to this, but...jam?  Only thing that should go on a buttery is mair butter.

Also, nae mention of Robertsons? Although I haven't tried one of theirs for decades now.


  If you mean Robertsons of Stoney,i think they closed down a few years ago....

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Re: World’s best buttery
« Reply #57 on: April 20, 2018, 10:06:45 PM »
I always thought it was lard.

I don’t suppose vegetable fat is any healthier.

I saw an old film clip once of them making ice cream in Dundee
Massive blocks of lard being chucked into the mixer.

Cauld fat hiznae got the same ring to it as Gelato

I had a chum who’s uncle was a farmer on Tayside

Almost his entire business was supplying the jam factories of Dundee with .......neeps.

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Re: World’s best buttery
« Reply #58 on: April 21, 2018, 03:13:44 PM »
Whatever, I've seen a recipe on the internet, so I think I have a little bit more experience in Rowie making.

Interesting post min, do you have the ideal recipe ratio? 5 parts dough to 3 parts vegetable shortening? And do you dee the whole folding type thing like yer deein puff pastry?



No, doing the folding thing would give you croissants and which is actually is not to dissimilar to a roll.  We used to 'chap' the fat mixture into the the dough using metal scrapers, trying to work the fat equally into the dough. If you do it right, the inside, once baked, should look like it is in layers, you will alway get a few which haven't got too much fat in them and are more like the inside of a slice of loaf. Usually if you buy multi packs of rolls from a supermarket they are made in places who mix the fat and dough in a mixer and you can tell straight away as they have a rubbery feel and texture to them.

Roughly 5 parts dough to 4 of fat. Your dough has to be a soft loose dough, not over mixed like if you were making softies or bread. You want some sugar in it to work the yeast, but most of the sugar and salt goes into the fat and once mixed together you have your rolls ready to prove and bake. You will probably need a few attempts to get it right, but if I am being honest you are better buying them as they are messy as fuck to make.

The secret to a great roll is in the mixing of the fat into the dough. Despite all the noise made about them being unhealthy, which undoubtedly they are, they are slightly better for you than a croissant, we worked this out when I did day release at college many moons ago.

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Re: World’s best buttery
« Reply #59 on: April 21, 2018, 03:38:10 PM »
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