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Offline RicoS321

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Re: "Woman" wins cycling gold
« Reply #20 on: October 17, 2018, 08:27:27 PM »
Rico it's your opinion I'm speaking shite about the Equality Act and Human Rights Act. I believe they are pervidious pieces of shite and a litigant's paradise. I think you are speaking shite but it's all about opinions.

It's nothing to do with my opinion. I haven't given one. You're either speaking shite or you're not. Given that you've provided zero evidence to back up your claim then you're speaking shite until proven otherwise. You've made the claim that we're instituting "ridiculous equality laws that always seem to advantage minority groups over the general public" so back it up. It's been in place for 8 years, show us the litigant's paradise. I'm very open to evidence.

This is basically the way politics is going in this country. Some fucker makes a strongly voiced argument that sounds like it might be right and the public get behind it without checking the evidence. That to me is far more dangerous than whether or not a handful of transgender folk get treated the same as me or not, that's why I'm annoyed by it. I'm broadly in agreement with the argument being put forward about the transgender athelete is basically cheating, although if we're frightened by the normalisation of transgenderists then setting up a new gender grouping for them would be the quickest way to do it; imagine the BBC when Britain's fastest tranny wins gold in the 2020 Olympic TG 100M race?

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Re: "Woman" wins cycling gold
« Reply #21 on: October 18, 2018, 12:00:52 AM »
I don't think anyone is "frightened about the normalisation" of transgender people. It's quite obviously abnormal to choose to change one's sex. They are human beings, however they arrived at their decision and deserve to be treated as such. All the education in the world isn't going to change how the 99.999% of the people feel about the 0.001% who have crossed the divide however, or whatever the majority/minority calculation actually is.

Would I trust my children to a transgender teacher? Absolutely not. If they're so confused about their own biology, what the fuck else are they confused about? Maybe 20% or 35% or 55% or 99% of the 99.999% are happy with leaving their kids to be taught by a woman-who-used-to-be-a-man but I'm not having it.

Let's not kid ourselves. There is normal and there is abnormal. I feel sorry for the increasing number of women getting beaten by men in various sporting events. That's athletics and now cycling. That ain't right, and it's definitely nae normal.
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Re: "Woman" wins cycling gold
« Reply #22 on: October 18, 2018, 12:14:38 AM »
I don't think anyone is "frightened about the normalisation" of transgender people.

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Would I trust my children to a transgender teacher? Absolutely not. If they're so confused about their own biology, what the fuck else are they confused about? Maybe 20% or 35% or 55% or 99% of the 99.999% are happy with leaving their kids to be taught by a woman-who-used-to-be-a-man but I'm not having it.

That sounds like fear to me!

Do you think they might teach our daughters how to turn themselves into fine young men? Or d'ye reckon they'd stick to the maths curriculum?

I had a teacher at school with a serious hygene problem (he stank of shite and definitely didn't wash). It was abnormal. He was good at teaching like. Much better at teaching than his cleanly colleague who was clearly thick as fuck. Some abnormal people are good at things that their abnormality has no bearing on.

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Re: "Woman" wins cycling gold
« Reply #23 on: October 18, 2018, 12:45:58 AM »
That sounds like fear to me!

I was aware of the possible contradiction in my post but decided that honesty would be the best policy.

But is is "fear" that I'm guilty of? I don't think so. Certainly not that the pupil's own sexuality would be affected.

I guess that example was given as a thought provoker. Sometimes right and wrong, acceptable and unacceptable comes from a place which defies rational explanation. The instinct lives by its own rules and that will be personal and different for each of us.

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Re: "Woman" wins cycling gold
« Reply #24 on: October 18, 2018, 07:57:29 AM »
Honesty?


Keep up with the times rocket min, you're nae allowed that.

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Re: "Woman" wins cycling gold
« Reply #25 on: October 18, 2018, 09:36:02 AM »
I feel I should point out that I'm not transphobic as it is now being described. I have absolutely no problem with those who are diagnosed gender dysphoric and go through the correct channels in order to transition.

However I am concerned that it has started to become a growth industry. We have been doing sex change surgery in the UK since the 60s on the NHS...it was available abroad privately before this.....but the numbers having it remained fairly constant at less than 100 per year all the way up to the millennium.

However in the past 15 years the numbers transitioning has rocketed and it seems to be in many cases more of a lifestyle choice than a medical/psychiatric need. Many only  take hormones and never seek surgery. And what really grinds my gears are the sensationalist headlines in red to newspapers....."Man gives birth to (insert weight/sex of baby)". Men do not have uteruses and cannot conceive. This is where I feel it is a lifestyle choice and not a true need to transition....especially where a fat cheque is awaiting for their back story.

And now it seems many male criminals are suddenly "realising" that they are transsexual. Strangely enough, the vast majority of these are convicted sex criminals and seem to believe their porridge would be better served within the confines of an all female prison. Too fucking right it would....virtually no chance of getting a savage beating in there and plenty possibilities to act on their true gender urges....

As I said.....the world is fucked
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Re: "Woman" wins cycling gold
« Reply #26 on: October 18, 2018, 10:06:56 AM »
This is where our opinion diverges.
I say Burn the bastards.


We now have a leading Scottish politician who's pregnant and thinks her lizzie pal is the father.
Hmmm, I'm fair going to trust her to make judgements on anything else.

I see today that Kleenex are stopping selling "Man size tissues" because of "a consistent increase of complaints on gender concern"

I'm not holding my breath waiting for them to drop any product that's aimed at women.

Point and laugh is the only way, point and laugh, loudly.

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Re: "Woman" wins cycling gold
« Reply #27 on: October 18, 2018, 11:19:47 AM »
The adoption of children by gay couples. This appalls and disgusts me.

By doing so, Elton and Ruth and their partners are so desperate to be "normal", they totally disregard the welfare of the children. Having two mummies or two daddies is sick and twisted. It's ok for gays to be outside of the closet these days and for them to live openly with their minority preferences but by forcing their abnormality on to the psyche of an infant is selfish and destructive. We don't have the data yet on the effects of gay parenting but there will be trouble ahead. As I said, we don't fuck with nature.
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Re: "Woman" wins cycling gold
« Reply #28 on: October 19, 2018, 11:00:07 PM »
That's a wholly different argument, Rocket. I was of the opinion that only a man and a woman should be parents to children, but as my partner pointed out, you get shit parents no matter what. If a kid is going to happy and loving household, well we shouldn't stand in the way of that.

The tranny cyclist should be in their own category and shouldn't be able to claim victory in a straight sex event. If it was me I'd be embarrassed to even pretend it was a level playing field and claiming victory. It's morally fraudulent. That said, it's not their fault the category doesn't exist. maybe this will spur the development on as much like in the paralympics where you have different events based on disabilities, I fail to see how not being male or female is any different.

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Re: "Woman" wins cycling gold
« Reply #29 on: October 20, 2018, 06:40:10 AM »
Yes it is a different argument and I don't expect it to be understood by the majority sub 40 years of age. I agree that there are shit parents everywhere and of course an environment that includes love is the most important influence in a kid's development. A single mother is very often better than a dysfunctional duo.

I have no beef with the abnormal. In fact I encourage it. "Find out what 95% of the people are thinking and doing and then think or do the complete opposite" - Roger Anthony, Crocodiles not Waterlilies. The problem is an agenda which tries to blur the distinctions and particularly the motivations of those who drive the agenda.
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Re: "Woman" wins cycling gold
« Reply #30 on: October 20, 2018, 09:16:42 AM »
You can't turn a man into a woman.

So he should have been competing in the men's race.

I suppose he could have chanced his luck and entered for the disabled race.
That would have been far more apt.


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Re: "Woman" wins cycling gold
« Reply #31 on: October 24, 2018, 02:04:18 PM »


The tranny cyclist should be in their own category and shouldn't be able to claim victory in a straight sex event. If it was me I'd be embarrassed to even pretend it was a level playing field and claiming victory. It's morally fraudulent. That said, it's not their fault the category doesn't exist.
"She" is absolutely glorying in it on twitter, lapping up the "fame", and not a hint of shame.

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Re: "Woman" wins cycling gold
« Reply #32 on: October 24, 2018, 03:25:28 PM »
Burn the bastard.

Fuckin freak.