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Re: Crazy American Politics
« Reply #340 on: January 12, 2018, 10:38:31 PM »
No way

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Re: Crazy American Politics
« Reply #341 on: January 12, 2018, 11:46:02 PM »
The shitholes thing was crazy. He's a law unto himself. He's mad, and dangerous too cos he's so thick.

I've often wondered about the value of the prime real estate of the old US Embassy in Mayfair. It's fucking massive. We walked right round it a couple of years ago when we stayed at the Dorchester next door, well, just down the road. He could have a point about the Brits getting it on the cheap but by fuck he hates Obama, pathologically.
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Re: Crazy American Politics
« Reply #342 on: January 29, 2018, 07:35:26 PM »
Just watched last nights Trump interview with “Pearce” Morgan. Stating the bleeding obvious but what a pair of utter cunts.


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Re: Crazy American Politics
« Reply #343 on: January 31, 2018, 03:25:48 AM »
Confirmed that he will be keeping Guantanamo Bay open...

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Re: Crazy American Politics
« Reply #344 on: January 31, 2018, 09:42:55 AM »
Whoo hooo freedom etc.

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Re: Crazy American Politics
« Reply #345 on: January 31, 2018, 09:49:57 AM »
Two schoolchildren died on Tuesday and 14 others suffered bullet wounds when a classmate opened fire outside a school in Benton, Kentucky. It was the third US school shooting in 48 hours and the 11th in the three weeks since the start of the year.
The victims were Bailey Holt and Preston Cope, both 15. A 15-year-old boy was arrested and charged with the attack.
The story fell somewhere into the middle of the day's news agenda. "Americans have accepted these common atrocities as part of life here," wrote one commenter on the New York Times website. "Another day, another shooting spree, and no political will to do anything about it."
But there is political will building behind a certain sort of gun legislation — reforms that aim to increase, rather than decrease, the number of firearms in schools and other public buildings, and arm teachers and school staff as a means of defence.
Hours after the shooting in Kentucky, Republican State Senator Steve West rushed to file a bill that would allow Kentucky schools to have armed school marshals patrol the site. His bill joins another in the state which seeks to loosen gun restrictions around college campuses.
Mr West's bill received cross-party support from state Democratic Senator Ray Jones. "We need armed officers in every school in Kentucky," Mr Jones said. "That is a small price to pay if it saves one child's life."


"The only way to stop a bad guy with a gun is with a good guy with a gun,"







If only we were a bitty mair like America.

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Re: Crazy American Politics
« Reply #346 on: January 31, 2018, 10:12:48 AM »
It's not a few hundred, it's not even a few thousand. It's tens of thousands who lose their lives to guns in the USA.

Doesn't take a rocket scientist to work out that making guns illegal would reduce the fatalities.

This president can't even work out that a golf course in Balmedie loses five months a year minimum to the weather, the haar in mid summer wiping out a few days too so no surprise it's never going to be profitable. What was a surprise was that he could lose money at Turnberry too, one of the best courses in the world.

Given that he's been this close to bankruptcy and is losing other people's money (rather than his own), I wonder what qualities he actually has to run a country? It's a fabrication that he's a successful businessman. He's a ticket, a pawn in a sick game.

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Re: Crazy American Politics
« Reply #347 on: January 31, 2018, 11:53:05 AM »
He's got the only quality that counts.

He was popular enough for folk to vote for him.


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Re: Crazy American Politics
« Reply #348 on: January 31, 2018, 11:54:32 AM »
I keep getting this image of a teacher shooting a 15 year old because she "thought" he had a gun.

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« Reply #349 on: January 31, 2018, 12:01:46 PM »
If she had reasonable grounds for suspecting, a fair price to pay for national security.

That's how they would justify it.

Do they not see the numbers from other countries? Can't the ignorant fuckers work out the obvious?

They should put this rocket scientist in charge of their country. Guns banned. Rednecks and KKK to be hanged. Dope legal in every state. Country club members to be psychologically evaluated (by me) and then executed and/or their offspring castrated (by knife, not chemically), Hollywood emptied of fakes (bullet this time rather than hanging) and Wall Street to be blown up. Not a bad start but so much work still to be done.
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Re: Crazy American Politics
« Reply #350 on: January 31, 2018, 12:09:23 PM »
Whoo hooo

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Re: Crazy American Politics
« Reply #351 on: January 31, 2018, 12:14:10 PM »
I'd need some help to root out the bad apples in the police barrel.

Listening to the wonderful David Byrne on Lauren Laverne just now. He's nuts but his new album is American Utopia and he's talking about how his last gig was males, females, all ages, all races and all getting along grooving to the music. He reckons that if they call all get along together in this room they can get along elsewhere. True dat. He's still as mad as a box of marmalade-makers though, in a nice way.
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Re: Crazy American Politics
« Reply #352 on: January 31, 2018, 01:18:38 PM »
Is that Talking Heads David Byrne?


Actually I don't give a fuck about the Yanks.

I hope the good guys sort it out but I am happy to leave them to themselves. ( if only they could keep their noses out of everybody else's business)


It's a mystery to me why we are interested in them at all, a bit like the royal family really.

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Re: Crazy American Politics
« Reply #353 on: January 31, 2018, 02:03:44 PM »
In all 3 of the Charter Schools I taught at in Chicago we had uniformed armed guards at the doors and fucking metal detectors!
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Re: Crazy American Politics
« Reply #354 on: January 31, 2018, 02:42:22 PM »
It's not a few hundred, it's not even a few thousand. It's tens of thousands who lose their lives to guns in the USA.

Doesn't take a rocket scientist to work out that making guns illegal would reduce the fatalities.

This president can't even work out that a golf course in Balmedie loses five months a year minimum to the weather, the haar in mid summer wiping out a few days too so no surprise it's never going to be profitable. What was a surprise was that he could lose money at Turnberry too, one of the best courses in the world.

Given that he's been this close to bankruptcy and is losing other people's money (rather than his own), I wonder what qualities he actually has to run a country? It's a fabrication that he's a successful businessman. He's a ticket, a pawn in a sick game.

Don’t agree with making guns illegal. Drugs are illegal too but drug crime is massive. Make them harder to get, plus incentives to give up guns. I’d certainly ban assault rifles and the likes, flat out no need for those unless you’re fighting a war. America doesn’t have a gun problem, it’s a culture problem and the disregard for people and human life. Fuck knows how you solve it.
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Re: Crazy American Politics
« Reply #355 on: January 31, 2018, 02:55:35 PM »
Is that Talking Heads David Byrne?


Actually I don't give a fuck about the Yanks.

I hope the good guys sort it out but I am happy to leave them to themselves. ( if only they could keep their noses out of everybody else's business)


It's a mystery to me why we are interested in them at all, a bit like the royal family really.

Yeah the same DB of the TH who infamously wore those giant shoulder pads when the fashion was in vogue. Asked why do you wear such a big jacket he replied because it makes my head look small.

Being interested in isn't obsessing over. Given their poisonous influence over the rest of the world, it's silly not to be interested in what's going on there.

The Royal Family can disappear yesterday. Fuck them.
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Re: Crazy American Politics
« Reply #356 on: February 02, 2018, 09:46:24 PM »
Two schoolchildren died on Tuesday and 14 others suffered bullet wounds when a classmate opened fire outside a school in Benton, Kentucky. It was the third US school shooting in 48 hours and the 11th in the three weeks since the start of the year.
The victims were Bailey Holt and Preston Cope, both 15. A 15-year-old boy was arrested and charged with the attack.
The story fell somewhere into the middle of the day's news agenda. "Americans have accepted these common atrocities as part of life here," wrote one commenter on the New York Times website. "Another day, another shooting spree, and no political will to do anything about it."
But there is political will building behind a certain sort of gun legislation — reforms that aim to increase, rather than decrease, the number of firearms in schools and other public buildings, and arm teachers and school staff as a means of defence.
Hours after the shooting in Kentucky, Republican State Senator Steve West rushed to file a bill that would allow Kentucky schools to have armed school marshals patrol the site. His bill joins another in the state which seeks to loosen gun restrictions around college campuses.
Mr West's bill received cross-party support from state Democratic Senator Ray Jones. "We need armed officers in every school in Kentucky," Mr Jones said. "That is a small price to pay if it saves one child's life."


"The only way to stop a bad guy with a gun is with a good guy with a gun,"







If only we were a bitty mair like America.

On an average day in average America, 7 children or teenagers are murdered or accidentally killed by guns.
It's nice to say that banning weapons such as the assault rifles and various hand guns would reduce gun crime. That is obvious to a blind man.

The second amendment is oft quoted by "gun nuts" as their "god given right" to defend themselves or bear arms.
The same second amendment has never changed since it's addition to the US constitution Bill of rights in 1791 when the firearms predominantly used were muskets.

It's bizarre that in over 200 years that this amendment has never been updated given how vague the wording in the amendment is and interpreted, by various bodies dependent on which side of the fence you sit on.

The obvious reason for this is that the gun lobby are a powerful head among the many on Medusa's scalp that is the USA.
If you go against them as a politician, then you'll pay the price in one way shape or form eventually for sure.
If you are for them, then you have a higher chance of being elected President, which shows the mess the country is in when it comes to this thorny subject.

We could ban guns tomorrow, but the amount of weapons out there and the power of the gun lobby means that it'll be impossible to enforce, enact or make a change to the second amendment.

Meanwhile..... the next 7 kids are being laid in their caskets.
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Re: Crazy American Politics
« Reply #357 on: February 02, 2018, 10:17:49 PM »
On an average day in average America, 7 children or teenagers are murdered or accidentally killed by guns.
It's nice to say that banning weapons such as the assault rifles and various hand guns would reduce gun crime. That is obvious to a blind man.

The second amendment is oft quoted by "gun nuts" as their "god given right" to defend themselves or bear arms.
The same second amendment has never changed since it's addition to the US constitution Bill of rights in 1791 when the firearms predominantly used were muskets.

It's bizarre that in over 200 years that this amendment has never been updated given how vague the wording in the amendment is and interpreted, by various bodies dependent on which side of the fence you sit on.

The obvious reason for this is that the gun lobby are a powerful head among the many on Medusa's scalp that is the USA.
If you go against them as a politician, then you'll pay the price in one way shape or form eventually for sure.
If you are for them, then you have a higher chance of being elected President, which shows the mess the country is in when it comes to this thorny subject.

We could ban guns tomorrow, but the amount of weapons out there and the power of the gun lobby means that it'll be impossible to enforce, enact or make a change to the second amendment.

Meanwhile..... the next 7 kids are being laid in their caskets.
Madness.

America is the ultimate corrupt capitalist country, money rules. The government is terrible, whether democratic or republican (nothing to do with Trump), and that's why the country is fucked. Gun laws won't change dramatically due to money, just like the medical field where money comes before health. It's a messed up place...

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Re: Crazy American Politics
« Reply #358 on: February 03, 2018, 08:33:03 AM »
It's messed up for sure and until we read White Trash by Nancy Isenberg - one of the best researched books ever, a book I bought randomly whilst in a Contemporary Arts place in London a couple of months ago - we won't know why it's so messed up.

The history of the country has injustice, madness, hypocrisy and inhumanity written into its core. It's never going to change because it can't change. The DNA of the people includes badness.

As with everything, there is yin and yang. I believe that the reason why America has given us some of the world's best people and some of the best innovations in human history is because the default is so sick. The likes of Sweden, Norway and Belgium etc. are beige. They don't have great inequalities and social hardship on anywhere like the same scale and therefore they don't produce the same brilliance of genius either.
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« Reply #359 on: February 03, 2018, 09:26:00 AM »
As with everything, there is yin and yang. I believe that the reason why America has given us some of the world's best people and some of the best innovations in human history is because the default is so sick. The likes of Sweden, Norway and Belgium etc. are beige. They don't have great inequalities and social hardship on anywhere like the same scale and therefore they don't produce the same brilliance of genius either.

Surely population is a larger factor here? If you compared America with Europe, that'd be fairer. Ironically, the Scandi's brought us the first mass-produced machine gun, which the yanks love so much. So they owe all their child-murdering to the Swedes. I could be wrong of course.